Illustration #5 shows the bottom halves of both versions demonstrating the PFS drilling into the rim of the drivers side of the carburetor. If your car does not have the cut-off valveskip this step. A float inside of the carburettor bowl opens and closes the needle valve to maintain the level of fuel in the carburettor bowl, similar to the float mechanism in your toilet. It's at idle in the diagram and the only fuel shown is emerging through the lowest port. But, Ill await your responses to my questions here before I do that. You can use SOME 30PICT/1 carburettors on a 1600cc engine. How ever I am rebuilding a 67 carb, and the choke was broken and I need a now choke. ~~~. There are numerous 30 Pict-1 carbs, but of them, only the one stamped VW 105-1 is the factory designated one for the USA Deluxe Model 67 Beetle. Solex 220S And the fractional LEAN hesitation would be part of the cause too. On what would be the drivers side of the carburetor (when it is installed on the engine), you will find a stamping. 07 October 2007, 04:44 . Let us know what you discover, Russ. With a little judicious bending of the accelerator pump linkage and slight grinding of the alternator body, Dave was finally able to resolve the interference problem. Why, I cannot say. I thoroughly enjoyed your article and precise style of writing! You might just feel something if you are lucky. The timing is set ATDC. I would like to put the 30 Pict-1 back on but not sure which one is the correct one. They tell me the smaller one is a 6 volt which they dont make anymore. In so doing, I had to register it as a 1975 Reconstructed Vehicle. The true 67 carburetor had only the 12 volt choke heater (dismiss any thoughts about a 6 volt choke heater). Interference, Carburettor/Distributor There is a screw at the front-top of the throttle lever which can be turned clock-wise to come to bear on the idle cam (drivers side again). This procedure also applies to the 30PICT/1 and 28. series carburettors having a single adjusting screw. Rob responded - Well, yes, that's sort of right. 28 Pict Vs. 30 Pict-3. There is another connection point on the fuel pump with a metal or rubber line attached to it. Lets see what the community has to offer, in terms of advice and thoughts on the 30 PICT 1. You dont want to wait for 5 minutes for it to open. It remains consistent that for the 1967 Beetle destined for consumption for the USA market, only the VW 105-1 was the carburetor of choice. If left to itself, engine will die. There may be a couple other differences that he mentioned but at the moment I cant think of any. I have screwed it all the way in while it is running and it makes a small difference in the idle but not much. This means that it has not been drilled, then had the end plugged. 30/31 PICT-3 Type 1 & 2 Bug Bus Ghia. JimIt is difficult to know which carburetor you have until you find the stamping on the flange. Jeff, so you can put a 1967 pic 30 pict on 1966 bug ?but not vise a versa ? Thanks for the additional info. If it still is 6 volted, good. Lets see if we can unearth the relevant information. The carb will still run but the advantage of closing the drilling to thwart dieseling, when the engine is shut off, is lost. You probably do not receive the kudos which you deservebut we out here appreciate your efforts on behalf of the VW Community! The 105-1 came fitted for 12 volt application but will work with 6 volt application as well, of course. Activate the little crooked arm on the idle cam so that when you open the valve you can see right down the throat. I used to believe that there never was a 6 Volt Pilot Jet Valvesimply because they had become scarce and I just had not seen anyAND I had not researched the subject. on the side of the carburettor. Turn the Bypass Screw (the larger one) out a couple of turns, to get things started. Hello, MarkFirst lets talk a minute about your carburetor. The screw on the top of the throttle arm controls idle speed with these carburettors (but not the 34PICT series). jay, Jay, There is an air screw on the driver's side of the carb. Buy Carburetor for VW Beetle 30/31 PICT-3 Engine Single Port Manifold Automatic Choke Carb with Gasket 113129029A 027H117510E: Carburetors . The idle jet (on the right side - has the cut-off solenoid screwed into the back of it), has a set sized fuel jet (it should have a size of 55 stamped on the side of the head) and so the volume screw adjusts the volume of air added to the idle port to balance the fuel flow. Adjusted jetting is idle 55, main 127.5 or 130, air correction jet untouched at 125, and power jet 65. I am still confused, and I must find out. Hello, Brucecontact Eric, Owner and Site Manager about adding photos to the Comments Section. I even argued the point. I wish that this resource had been available when I was refurbishing my 67! Just tighten firmly. The engine must be cold to make this adjustment. Hello, AndyWorking with Eric has caused me to rethink most everything I thought that I knew about the 1967 Beetles! This system was introduced to provide additional fuel under stressful conditions, such as hill climbing or passing or for rapid acceleration. Alan, We, who have worked with VWs know that we can play with these engines and exchange parts from one year with parts from another year and make them work. 65). Screw this screw completely into the carb. Once the car is running, allow the choke to heat to open the choke valve (flapper). The bottom of the carburettor Carburetor throttle return spring. My other beetle has a 34 Pict 3 and I know how to tune that, can anyone recommend a good place to look or method to correctly adjust the 30 pict 1? Hello! There is only one screw on the drivers side of the carb. Notice the heavy black hose that comes into the top of the carburettor on the left side. All allow my partner Jay Salser to comment. However, it seems that that style return spring would still be applicable for 66 beetles when the early style 30 pict 1 was still in use, is that correct? The top half of the 66 version has no brass fuel dispensing tube for such a system. Can I use the 34PICT/3 carburettor on my '69 Beetle? Russ. . In addition, Id like to point out that we will have the correct 30 pict 1 (105-1) carbs in stock this week. The accelerator pump is pulling fuel from the bowl. Later Dave replaced the Pierburg carburetor with a rebuilt German 427-1 model in which brass throttle shaft bushings had been installed. jay. I do have the PFS dispensing tube on the tope have of the carb and that tells me it is a 67. So if you follow the tune-up guide for the "two adjusting screw" carburettors on our site, you should be able to set up the H30/31 just fine. Hello again, RussYesthis does sound exciting. 234915322652 That but caught me way off-guard. Hello, BruceWhoopsyes, author error. Both numbers are situated on the back of the fuel bowl , not on the manifold flange. We own a '67 Beetle and a '68 Karmann Ghia. Move the ceramic choke heater slightly clock-wiseto loosen the tension. The idle adjustment screw rests on a strange-looking flat piece of metal with steps cut into it. You could always replace the choke to 6V. carburetor re-build Page 1/3 March, 01 2023 4a1 Solex Carburetor Manual. Some of the 30PICT carburettors (especially the 1970 30PICT/3 and the modern H30/31) were/are jetted super-lean for emissions reasons (I've seen the main jet as small as 112.5). Thats a good way to save information for quick reference, Richard. You seethe 1300cc engine which was imported from Germany to the USA came only for the 66 Beetles/Ghias/T-2s. Kentucky. twin-port (dual-port) heads have two holes in the cylinder head, Doing all that will reduce the hesitation somewhat. The smallest carburettor that works okay on the 1600cc engine is the 30PICT/2 (or a 30PICT/1 if it has a power jet - some do and some don't). 0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. My pic 30 saids vw-75 on the flange. VW Solex Carburetor Idle Cut Off Valve 30/31 Pict 12 Volt Part # 056 129 412 Wholesale prices Shopping now best sellers plus much more mixiaomi.co, US $57.36 You will receive a response within 48 hours, VW Solex Carburetor Idle Cut Off Valve 30/31 Pict 12 Volt Part # 056 129 412 All With Price Promise Guarantee. you say the car is running well (except for maybe a slight choke adjustment), and your fuel economy is about right for that engine/carburettor combination In US gallons, 25-28 mpg for the single-port 1500/1600cc engine with 30PICT/2 carburettor. Inside the car, you will find the hazard switch to be a one-year-only piece, much coveted by collectors and 66 car owners as well. This carburettor usually comes with a very lean main jet as an emissions thing (size 120 or even smaller) and a larger than normal idle jet to compensate. It has the Power Fuel System and is a 30 Pict-1 from a VW other than a Beetle. It IS possible to run the 66 version on a 67 Bug. I know that someone is going to catch this sooner or later. Here is my question. Keep up the good work! Hopefully the gasket between the carburetor base and the manifold flange comes with the carburetor. Of course, Bus and Ghia variants were different than on Bugs. Vapor Lock Just because the carburetor top has the Power Fuel Supply tube doesnt make it a 67 Carburetor. Solex 30 PICT/2 Carburetor Adjustment Procedures. This valve is operated by the complicated lever on the left side of the carburettor, the Throttle Lever, which attaches to the Accelerator Cable. So you set the idle speed to 850rpm or so, then use the volume screw to get the fastest idle, then reset the idle speed using the throttle arm screw. If the car makes a habit of this, its time to rebuild the carburettor and replace the float needle valve, which is included in most carburettor overhaul kits. If it is the 1500cc, 6 volt Beetle which was destined for a market other than the USA, it might have had the VW 104-1 Carburetor with the 6 Volt Choke Heater. Confused? It was a different marketplace in Europe and elsewhere. I am talking about the one with the PFS. This flapper valve wants to be set to close very loosely! Throttle Positioner Hopefully your engine will be purring by this time. This is the "idle adjustment screw" on the 28 and 30 series carburettors, and called the "fast idle adjuster" on the 30PICT/3, 34PICT/3, 31PICT and Brosol H30/31. I recognize you as one of the knowledgeable persons on the Samba Forums who passes his knowledge to the rest of us! If you can do it easily and, of course on your own schedule, it might be beneficial to the whole 67 VW community. Thank you for your patience! These have two throats, a smaller one for idling and gentle cruising about town, and a larger throat which only opens when you step on the gas. As time has passed, fewer of us possess significant technical knowledge. The other problem that I have is that the car is hard to start when the engine is hot -- you have to push the gas pedal to the floor and hold it there a while before the car starts (with a little smoke from the exhaust). I want you to contact the following person. the head to provide the fuel/air mix to each intake valve. Hello, MarkI understand now. Or should find a 75-1 instead? I think that most switches dont care whether it is 6 or 12 volts. (Disassembly and Cleaning), 28 PICT-1 & -2; 30 PICT/1 Carburettor Overhaul I traded a rough 1952 CJ-3A for it in January of 1975. [3] The Volume Control Screw is the smaller of the two adjusting screws. A warped mounting flange can cause a potential vacuum leak. 5. Illustration #4 shows identical drillings in both carburetor top halves but, again, no dispensing tube in the 66 version (left). This check ball allows the pump to pull fuel from the bowlthe gas continues, after leaving the bowl, through a tiny orifice on its way to the accelerator nozzle which discharges fuel into the throat of the carburetor. 1. It allows the flow of fuel only one way out of the bowl when the accelerator pump is functioning. One other thing I must tell you. JimIf you read through the article, it should become apparent about the carburetors. splits in two on either side, you have what is called a Dual-Port Firstthe Return Spring situation: The 47-1 (30 Pict-1) Carburetor used the Earlier Return Spring which consisted of a long tube into which was inserted a long spring. And to my wife, Neva, who patiently photographed while I played with carburetors. 640867 This is always open (it's called a "constant venturi" carburettor), so there is a huge variation in the amount of vacuum at the venturi, depending on how open the butterfly is, and of course the engine speed. Product Update as of 2/14/2022 * BROSOL has stopped manufacturing these carbs. In fact, we raised our family in these cars. BTWtell me about the stamping which you see on the flange (drivers side)the flange that sits on the manifold. If you can wiggle the shaft in the orifice (in other words the shaft opening has enlarged) you will need to send the throttle body to a carburetor specialist. It is possible that the 79 (which is missing on my charts) may fit into the scheme of things for the 66 and 67 T-2s. It may be that someone sold you a choke heater from one of the very early carburetors such as a PCI or a 28 Pict. jay. Replace the solenoid if necessary. Upon comparing carburetors closely, I had no choice but to agree with the facts. Take care and thanks for stimulating our collective brains! adjustment ao 34 choke ts a. torn idltnc control screw is screw c.am control fast cam third a e, turn volume contrlscrew slowly rack 28 toa speed Meaning all.lol, saves the photo storage. Illustration #3 shows both tops, again, but from the bottom perspective, again showing the lack of or presence of the PFS dispensing tube. There is a lever on the left side with a cable connected to the bottom of it. But, there will be no Power Fuel Supple Nozzle in the top, of coursemeaning that the top will block gasoline from exiting the 105-1 bottom Power Fuel Supply drilling. There are questions enough to go around when one gets into Volkswagens. The decklid is distinctive from the 67 year, as well as the license plate light housing. EMPI 30 PICT-1 Carburetor. Receive posts from 1967beetle.com in your inbox. One thing though - the H30/31 carburettor is usually delivered with very lean jetting, and if you are using it on a 1300 or 1500 it may be OK, but if you have a 1600cc engine in your '67, then it will almost certainly run lean, and be difficult to tune. Jay, Mikuni phh automotive carburetors. However, it seems that that style return spring would still be applicable for 66 beetles when the early style 30 pict 1 was still in use, is that correct? I sent it to eric@1967beetle.com, it that correct? Read more . 12 volt choke heaters are available used (see http://www.thesamba.com) and newsee any number of Online retailers. Germany. This will allow the carb to run, although it prob. If so what is the part number, and where can I find it. Heres how it happened. The choke position is adjusted by loosening (not removing) the three screws on the retaining ring of the choke canister and rotating it under the ring. Made in W. Germany Although I own a stock 6-volt 1966 Beetle (rather than a 1967), I learned a lot of useful information that can be applied to my 30-PICT-1 setup. VW 83-1 with the late style throttle return spring. Started by tmea, 07 October 2007, 04:44 . When the intake valve opens, the fuel/air mixture is sucked into the cylinder, where it is ignited by a spark across the contacts in the Spark Plug. Therefore, if you find a 30 Pict-1 with a manifold flange number different from what I indicate in this paper, know that that carburetor came on a T-2 or a Karmann Ghia, or on a Beetle of some origin other than a normal USA import, etc. Fuel Line Input Problems Generator Type: GX200 170F Portable Gasoline Engine. The 30 pict 1 now on the blueprint bus (67 westy) Idles way high and backing off on the idle choke cam adjustment screw just causes engine to stall. Its amazing. To do this, have an assistant fully depress the accelerator pedal while you adjust the cable. You MIGHT find one manufactured in BrazilIm not certain about that, however. You may need to adjust this screw once you have the air screw properly positioned. Hello, MarkI am glad to hear from you from Belgium! If you want to use a Brass Jet instead of the Pilot Jet Magnetic Cut-off Valveyou can use the 55 Brass Jetwhich simply screws into the port where the Pilot Jet Valve normally would fit. Thanks, Hello, Earl. your engine is Single-Port. Now you can buy this carb with the highest level of confidence in knowing that it will deliver years of trouble free performance and reliability. When driving, sounds like it's running rich, has the . Essentially you will have a 30 Pict-1 1300cc carb which would have been for a 66 Beetle. Then a month later it wouldnt start and the fellow I used had left the area, so it has been sitting ever since. Receive posts from 1967beetle.com in your inbox. If it's not working, you won't get a proper idle, and you'll get rough running at traffic speeds, too. In other wordsdo not set the choke so tight that it is slammed shut. You might be able to see bright 'rub' marks if the butterfly itself is binding on the sides, or on the outer edges (near where it closes). 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